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China makes more electricity than America and Europe combined. What does that tell us?

An investor says electricity beats GDP as a gauge of economic strength, and that GDP flatters war spending. His central fact holds; other numbers need care.

CHINA US + EU ELECTRICITY MADE, 2025 POWER = THE REAL ECONOMY?
Sketch; bar heights follow the 2025 figures in the data box below (Our World in Data, using Ember data).
MORE POWER MORE MAKING? KILOWATT-HOURS

What happened

What happened (fact)

On 25 October Gromen, founder of research firm FFTT, replied on X to a widely shared post by Mario Nawfal. The post, crediting the Financial Times and Oxford Economics, said China is no longer expected to overtake US nominal GDP soon: about 67% of America’s in 2025 and about 84% by 2040. We could not trace those figures.

His reply carried an Our World in Data chart ending in 2024. It holds up: China generated 10,087 TWh that year, against 7,164 TWh for the US and EU together. In 2025 it was 10,583 TWh against 7,317 TWh, about 1.45 times as much (our arithmetic). The International Energy Agency’s preliminary 2025 net-demand figures give about 1.43.

These are national totals; with China’s far larger population, per-person figures would look different.

Data

China’s power lead, in one chart

Electricity generated: China vs the US and EU-27 combined

Terawatt-hours (TWh) per year

China US + EU-27 0 2,000 4,000 6,000 8,000 10,000 10,087 7,164 2024 10,583 7,317 2025

How to read this

  1. One terawatt-hour is a billion kilowatt-hours: roughly what a mid-sized city uses in a year.
  2. In 2025 China made about 1.45 times as much as the US and EU together (our arithmetic).
  3. More power is not the same as a bigger economy: on standard GDP measures the US remains larger (see Four Lenses).

SourceOur World in Data, using Ember data (calendar 2024 and 2025), as given in the draft.

Is electricity a good yardstick?

What Luke Gromen thinks (his view)

Gromen calls electricity production “arguably the single best measure of real economic output”, partly because electricity “cannot be stored efficiently at scale”. In one post he says it “correlates nearly perfectly” with real living standards and industrial production; in another, three minutes later, “extremely well”.

arguably the single best measure of real economic output

Luke Gromen, on electricity (his view)

He discloses that he has “a significant investment in US electrical infrastructure”.

What happened (fact)

For rich economies the record is mixed. Reporting record US generation of about 4,430 TWh in 2025, up 2.8%, the US Energy Information Administration (EIA) wrote: “This growth contrasts with the trend of relatively flat electricity generation between the mid-2000s and early 2020s.” Over roughly that span, 2005 to 2022, US real GDP rose about 38% (BEA, via FRED; our arithmetic). The EIA data roughly fit Gromen’s line that US output is “rising again after 20 years”.

The war-spending argument

What Luke Gromen thinks (his view)

In a separate post that afternoon, Gromen argued that GDP counts war spending as growth even when it leaves a lasting cost. He cited “$10 trillion in wars in Afghan & Iraq” and a yearly veterans’ bill of about $400bn, which he put at 8% of US receipts. In a reply that evening, he set this against infrastructure, where “the bridges will still be there”.

What happened (fact)

We found no public source for $10 trillion. Brown University’s Costs of War project estimates about $8 trillion from late 2001 through FY2022. That covers the post-9/11 wars, including and beyond Afghanistan and Iraq, plus homeland-security counterterrorism spending. It includes a minimum of $2.2 trillion for veterans’ care obligations “through the next several decades” and excludes future interest (page updated June 2025).

His veterans’ figure is close. The Department of Veterans Affairs (VA) spent $415.6bn in FY2026, 7.7% of $5,403bn in federal receipts (Treasury; our arithmetic), covering veterans of all eras.

His accounting point is partly right. GDP counts defence purchases and services such as VA health care as they happen. But VA cash benefits, such as disability pay, are transfer payments: they aren’t counted in GDP themselves, though what recipients buy with them is (US Bureau of Economic Analysis).

How fast is the VA bill growing? One post says “3x” receipts, a later one “2.5x”; neither gives a period, and the years chosen matter. In FY2026 alone VA spending rose 10.4% and receipts 3.2%, about 3.2 times as fast. Over five years (FY2021–FY2026) it is about 2.0 times, and over ten (FY2016–FY2026) about 1.8, on average annual growth (Treasury; our arithmetic). FY2016 included an extra month of benefits paid early; starting from FY2015 gives about 1.9.

Four Lenses

How four very different thinkers read this story

Views, not facts. Each view is labelled with what it covers; counterpoints come from data or officials.

01

Luke Gromen

His view; X, 25 October; discloses an investment in US electrical infrastructure

Electricity says more than GDP, which flatters war spending.

02

Ray Dalio

His view; general, not about this debate

On 8 October he argued that over long periods debts tend to rise faster than incomes, creating a long-term debt cycle.

03

Robert Pape

His view; about the Iran war, not this debate

On 24 October he argued that a distant war’s costs reach household budgets, and anger then spills into the streets.

04

Multipolarity

Co-host Andrew Collingwood; military, not electricity

On 25 October he argued on X that Pacific “First Island Chain” defences could not stop the numbers of missiles and drones China can field.

Counterpoint · standard measures

On nominal GDP the US remains larger: China was about 63.6% of America’s in 2025 (IMF; our arithmetic). And US real GDP grew about 38% over 2005–2022 (BEA) while generation was relatively flat (EIA). A standard objection, echoed in replies to Gromen: using energy isn’t the same as creating value.

Agree / disagree

Where they agree

Gromen and Pape both point to war costs that land at home: Gromen on the long-run veterans’ bill, Pape on costs hitting household budgets now, at the pump.

Where they differ

On what they focus on: power output (Gromen), debt (Dalio), war’s costs at home (Pape) or military balance (Multipolarity).

What to watch next

  • Around Thursday 12 November 2026Treasury’s first fiscal-2027 monthly figures (October): is VA spending still outpacing receipts?
  • Around February 2027the IEA’s Electricity 2027, updating its preliminary 2025 figures.
  • Usually April (2027)Ember’s next Global Electricity Review, with 2026 data.
  • Any timea possible Costs of War update (last: June 2025).

Your wallet

What this could mean for your money

Context for everyday costs, not a recommendation.

01

Gas and electricity bills

These are national output totals, not prices; the link to household bills is indirect.

02

Groceries

No sourced link to food prices; any effect is indirect.

03

Mortgage rates

The US ran a government deficit of $1.992 trillion in FY2026 (Treasury). Borrowing is one of many influences on interest rates; the link is indirect.

04

Savings and taxes

In FY2026, Department of Veterans Affairs spending equalled about 7.7 cents for every dollar the US government collected (Treasury; our arithmetic). Any link to savings rates is indirect.

Not financial adviceThis is general education, not financial advice. We don’t tell anyone what to buy, sell or hold.

Glossary

GDP (gross domestic product)
The total value of everything a country produces in a year, the usual yardstick for the size and growth of an economy.
Nominal GDP
GDP at current prices, not adjusted for inflation; for comparing countries, converted at market exchange rates.
Receipts
the money a government takes in, mostly taxes, after refunds.
Transfer payment
money the government pays out, such as disability benefits, without buying anything in return.
Government deficit
When a government spends more than it collects in taxes in a year and borrows to cover the gap.

Reflection Point

Which tells you more about the strength of an economy?

In 2025 China generated about 1.45 times as much electricity as the US and EU combined (Ember, via Our World in Data). On nominal GDP, China was about 63.6% of America’s in 2025 (IMF; our arithmetic).

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Sources and notesShow / hide

Data and official

  1. Our World in Data, “Electricity generation” (Ember 2026; Energy Institute Statistical Review 2025), 2024–2025; metadata updated 30 Jun 2026: ourworldindata.org
  2. Ember, Global Electricity Review 2026, 21 Apr 2026: ember-energy.org
  3. IEA, Electricity Mid-Year Update 2026 (2025 net demand, preliminary): iea.blob.core.windows.net
  4. EIA, Today in Energy, record 2025 US generation, 5 Mar 2026 (page notes it was updated to correct data and sources): eia.gov
  5. BEA, real GDP (chained 2017 dollars), via FRED series GDPCA, 2005 and 2022: fred.stlouisfed.org
  6. IMF, World Economic Outlook, nominal GDP in US dollars, China and US, 2025 (DataMapper, accessed 26 Oct 2026): imf.org
  7. US Treasury, Final Monthly Treasury Statement, September 2026 (FY2026 VA outlays, receipts, deficit): fiscaldata.treasury.gov
  8. CBO, Monthly Budget Review: September 2026 (page could not be opened by the desk on 26 Oct; figures rest on Treasury): cbo.gov
  9. Brown University, Costs of War, US federal budget costs (late 2001 through FY2022; page updated June 2025): costsofwar.watson.brown.edu
  10. US Bureau of Economic Analysis, NIPA Handbook (concepts, transfer payments): bea.gov

Secondhand (credited to the outlet)

  1. Mario Nawfal, X post, 24 Oct 2026, crediting “Financial Times / Oxford Economics” (China about 67% of US nominal GDP in 2025, about 84% by 2040, as the post said; FT original not traced): x.com

The Four Lenses and the posts discussed

  1. Luke Gromen, X, 25 Oct 2026, 14:58 Paris time (“nearly perfectly”): x.com
  2. Luke Gromen, X, 25 Oct 2026, 15:01 Paris time (“extremely well”): x.com
  3. Luke Gromen, X, 25 Oct 2026, 15:44 Paris time (war spending, VA, “3x”): x.com
  4. Luke Gromen, X, 25 Oct 2026, 15:45 Paris time (US output, disclosure): x.com
  5. Luke Gromen, X, 25 Oct 2026, 22:18 Paris time (“bridges”, “2.5x”): x.com
  6. Ray Dalio, X, 8 Oct 2026 (long-term debt cycle; general): x.com
  7. Robert Pape, “France Is Burning — Iran War About to Escalate: Could It Happen Here?”, Substack, 24 Oct 2026 (free part only): professorrobertpape.substack.com
  8. Andrew Collingwood (@admcollingwood), X, 25 Oct 2026 (First Island Chain): x.com

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